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Jan 16, 2013 16:42
11 yrs ago
Romanian term

Daca nu cumva

Non-PRO Romanian to English Other Education / Pedagogy
Daca nu cumva o fi plecat din tara, cred ca il gasesti usor.
Proposed translations (English)
5 +7 unless
Change log

Jan 16, 2013 20:36: Cristina Butas changed "Level" from "PRO" to "Non-PRO"

Votes to reclassify question as PRO/non-PRO:

Non-PRO (3): Florin Ular, Diana Coada (X), Cristina Butas

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Discussion

Lara Barnett Jan 18, 2013:
@ Gabrielle "Except if he is out of the country" is incorrect. The correct English would be "could find him easily unless he is out of the country' and a comma is a bit unecessary.
Gabrielle Weatherhead Jan 18, 2013:
The Romanian is very informal here. It could be translated 'You could find him easily, except if he is out of the country' or 'unless he's out of the country'.
Dasa Suciu Jan 17, 2013:
Lara is somehow right because of the specific Romanian construction of the verb. In the reference posted below I'll try to make it clear.
Diana Coada (X) Jan 17, 2013:
Except if is incorrect, do not use it!
Lara Barnett Jan 17, 2013:
@ Costinro Maybe the source text is badly written, but I don't think that is a very professional reason to use the English incorrectly.
Lara Barnett Jan 17, 2013:
Except if This is incorrect use of grammar (in English) - for this particular context at least, and very clumsy elsewhere.
Florin Ular Jan 17, 2013:
Cumva Nu trebuie să traduci această expresie cuvânt cu cuvânt, ci sensul ei unitar. Acest „cumva” este mai degrabă un tic verbal fără prea mare valoare în ce privește sensul, arată o probabilitate/posibilitate, dar în engleză exprimarea este diferită - pur și simplu „Unless...”
Alexandranow Jan 17, 2013:
iată alte câteva posibilități
http://www.dictio.ro/des/unless
Alexandranow Jan 17, 2013:
but nu merge?
Nandor (asker) Jan 16, 2013:
CUMVA M-am gandit ca s-ar putea traduce concret cuvantul CUMVA ( in contextul mentionat)din DACA NU CUMVA! Daca nu= unless, asta stiam si eu!
Lara Barnett Jan 16, 2013:
@ Nandor Could you give some more context and what the problem is that you are having?

Proposed translations

+7
9 mins
Selected

unless

Unless he had left the country...

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Note added at 18 hrs (2013-01-17 11:27:57 GMT)
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Dacă vrei să accentuezi ideea de eventualitate, ar mai putea spune: Unless he happened to leave...

În ce priveşte forma verbală corectă, m-am gândit din repezeală că este "ar fi plecat".

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Note added at 21 hrs (2013-01-17 13:55:26 GMT)
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Forma verbului se pare că este la modul prezumtiv, mod care prezintă acțiunea verbului ca presupusă.

The presumptive mood is used in Romanian to express presupposition or hypothesis, regardless the fact denoted by the verb, as well as other more or less similar attitudes: doubt, curiosity, concern, condition, indifference, inevitability.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irrealis_mood#Presumptive
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanian_verbs
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Romanian_verb_conjuga...

În lumina celor de mai sus, cred că se poate spune şi: Unless he might have left...




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Note added at 23 hrs (2013-01-17 15:57:42 GMT)
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Am uitat să specific faptul că se va rezolva şi redarea în traducere a lui cumva (presupunere), dacă foloseşti construcţia cu prezumtiv: Unless he might have left...
Peer comment(s):
agree Nicolae Buzoianu : unless he has [...]
4 mins
Mulţumesc!
agree Diana Coada (X) : Unless he has!
1 hr
Mulţumesc!
agree Ovidiu Martin Jurj
2 hrs
Mulţumesc!
agree Maria Barbalat
3 hrs
Mulţumesc!
agree Alexandranow
13 hrs
Mulţumesc!
agree nepomuceno carmen : Unless he has ..
21 hrs
Mulţumesc!
agree Adela Porumbel
3 days 31 mins
Mulţumesc!
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