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...si può entrare in contatto fin dal suo nascere...

English translation: you can get into contact ... right from the start

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Italian term or phrase:...si può entrare in contatto fin dal suo nascere...
English translation:you can get into contact ... right from the start
Entered by: Fiona Gonçalves

16:28 Jan 27, 2008
Italian to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Cinema, Film, TV, Drama / commedia dell'arte
Italian term or phrase: ...si può entrare in contatto fin dal suo nascere...
I'm supposed to be translating from Portuguese to English but the original text is a translation from Italian to Portuguese and I suspect the translation (which was not done by a professional translator) is flawed.
Can anyone help me understand the sentence highlighted below?
Many thanks.



La maschera teatrale non ci nasconde ma ci aiuta a rivelare.
Per questa ragione la costruzione di una maschera da parte dell’allievo è un passaggio importante del percorso poiché attraverso una tecnica semplice **si può entrare in contatto fin dal suo nascere con la forma e con il movimento di fondo della maschera.**
Fiona Gonçalves
Portugal
Local time: 21:33
you can get into contact ... right from the start
Explanation:
"with a simple technique you can get into contact with the form and basic movement of the mask right from the start."
With more time you might find a more elegant way of putting it without the "get".

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Note added at 1 hr (2008-01-27 17:56:36 GMT)
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Hi Kay, my rule for written stuff, unless it is a clearly conversational style (like this) is not more than one "get" every umpteen pages. Same as for "fare" in Italian.
However, I love phrasal verbs. The WC is Winston Churchill.
http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/churchill.html who broke a lance against he latinisation of English.

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James (Jim) Davis
Seychelles
Local time: 00:33
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Summary of answers provided
4 +2you can get into contact ... right from the start
James (Jim) Davis
4 +1you are in contact with… …from the moment it is created.
KayW


Discussion entries: 2





  

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20 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
you are in contact with… …from the moment it is created.


Explanation:
I agree with James that it's better not to separate the verb from its objects.

KayW
Local time: 22:33
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 45

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  James (Jim) Davis: I was talking only of the "get". Your rule seems like "nonsense up with which I will not put" as WC famously wrote to the glee of all nineteen fifties and sixties schoolboys. My reply is above where there is more room.
15 mins
  -> Not suggesting it was a rule, merely thought it read better here (as you presumably did).
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8 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
you can get into contact ... right from the start


Explanation:
"with a simple technique you can get into contact with the form and basic movement of the mask right from the start."
With more time you might find a more elegant way of putting it without the "get".

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Note added at 1 hr (2008-01-27 17:56:36 GMT)
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Hi Kay, my rule for written stuff, unless it is a clearly conversational style (like this) is not more than one "get" every umpteen pages. Same as for "fare" in Italian.
However, I love phrasal verbs. The WC is Winston Churchill.
http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/churchill.html who broke a lance against he latinisation of English.



James (Jim) Davis
Seychelles
Local time: 00:33
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 68

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Gad Kohenov: yes. Communicate, establish contact, get in touch (none seems good enough).
16 mins
agree  Desiree Bonfiglio
1 hr
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