Glossary entry (derived from question below)
English term or phrase:
claim for ourselves/claiming
English answer:
actively assert/accept as our own
English term
claim for ourselves/claiming
"We both have to hear that voice and to ***claim for ourselves*** that that voice speaks the truth, our truth. It tells us who we are. That is where the spiritual life starts—by ***claiming*** the voice that calls us the beloved."
I take it to mean that we must assert that the voice is speaking to us and accept the message.
What do you think?
Thank you!
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chaman4723
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| claim for ourselves ... |
Laurie Price
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Dec 2, 2008 00:06: Polangmar changed "Level" from "Non-PRO" to "PRO"
Dec 2, 2008 11:37: jacana54 (X) changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/678802">jacana54 (X)'s</a> old entry - "claim for ourselves/claiming "" to ""actively assert/accept as our own""
PRO (3): chaman4723, Laurie Price, Polangmar
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India
20+ yrs of translating/ editing/proofing
Native in: English 
, Urdu
Works in: English to Urdu, English to Hindi, Hindi to English, and 4 more.
assert upon ourselves/asserting
http://taconline.org/Ciarlo799.htm
When God speaks to us we should claim upon ourselves the truth of it.
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Mexico
Real English: correct, concise, complete
Native in: English
Works in: Spanish to English, English
claim for ourselves ...
Agree!
| Thanks for your comment, Laurie, and also thanks to Ken... about the "for ourselves" part. In Spanish I had tentatively put "aceptar como nuestra". |
| agree |
Ken Cox
: as in the first definition in the Oxford dico: 'state or assert that something is the case, typically without providing evidence or proof' (akin to 'take on faith' or 'hold true based on belief'). The 'for ourselves' implies 'wilfully' or 'actively'.
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Patricia Townshend (X)
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Discussion
I will finally translate it as "afirmar como nuestra/afirmar".
Thanks again to all.
"we both" must be the priest (Nouwen) and the community to which he addressed the words.