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They often joke about English being a tricky language Mar 3, 2010

... but there's nothing tricky about this one. It's definitely "one end of ..."


Here's an example of a couple of usages I can think of that's kind of tricky ...

On second thought, I'd rather stay home.
I'm having second thoughts about this.





http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/on%20second%20thought

on second thought
Fig. having given something more thought; having reconsidered something. On second thought, maybe you should sell your house and move into an apartment. On second thought, let's not go to a movie.





http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/have%20second%20thoughts

have second thoughts
if you have second thoughts about something, you change your opinion or start to have doubts about it (often + about ) You're not having second thoughts about coming to Brighton with me, are you? (British & Australian)
 
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哈～～ Mar 3, 2010

nigerose wrote:

Ethan Tian wrote:

非常感谢大家的见解，看来认为不对的人还是多数，或许换种译法也不失一种好办法，就是这wipo这么大的网站出现这样迷惑大众的东西有些说不过去。



你的中译英文字也将被wipo收录，成为人类英语语料的一部分。


仁兄，我没有翻译过所列的链接的专利的中文，我要是能够给wipo这些网站翻译这些就有得挣的了。总之，还是感谢你前面关于这个问题的回复！
 
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语法错误 Mar 3, 2010

wherestip wrote:

That is entirely correct. You would never hear an educated native English speaker say "one ends of".

是的。其实，专利或专利申请书中出现一些语法错误并不令人奇怪。中国专利局公布的许多中文专利或专利申请书中，照样也有不少文字和语法的错误，甚至错得连中国人都难以看懂。

在美国或其它英语国家以及WIPO申请专利的发明人中，很多人的母语都不是英语。这些人写的英文技术资料，难免会有语法错误。某些专利是从其它国家文字译成英文的。在翻译过程中也难免会产生语法错误。经过专利律师的修改，专利申请书中的语法错误应该是减少了许多，但难以完全消除。

[Edited at 2010-03-04 00:15 GMT]
 
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并非高不可攀 Mar 3, 2010

Ethan Tian wrote:

我要是能够给wipo这些网站翻译这些就有得挣的了。

通常翻译专利都是申请人或其委托的律师事务所的责任。WIPO没有义务找人翻译它所公开的专利或专利申请书。但是，你所翻译的专利或专利申请书被收入WIPO或USPTO的资料库，也并非什么高不可攀的事情。

对于一名母语是中文的翻译而言，最好还是先从英译中开始做。等到英语达到一定水平之后，再开始做中译英。毕竟对于母语是中文的翻译而言，英译中比中译英要容易得多，质量也容易保证。很难想象连英译中都做不好的人（泛指），中译英的水平反而会很高。
 
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sun sir说得对 Mar 5, 2010

ysun wrote:

Ethan Tian wrote:

我要是能够给wipo这些网站翻译这些就有得挣的了。

通常翻译专利都是申请人或其委托的律师事务所的责任。WIPO没有义务找人翻译它所公开的专利或专利申请书。但是，你所翻译的专利或专利申请书被收入WIPO或USPTO的资料库，也并非什么高不可攀的事情。

对于一名母语是中文的翻译而言，最好还是先从英译中开始做。等到英语达到一定水平之后，再开始做中译英。毕竟对于母语是中文的翻译而言，英译中比中译英要容易得多，质量也容易保证。很难想象连英译中都做不好的人（泛指），中译英的水平反而会很高。


确实应该先做英文到中文的翻译，就是现在多是中文到英文的，英文到中文比较少。英文最大的问题就是有时候看不懂，中文表达出来也觉得不地道，看来还需多下功夫啊。
 
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Ethan Tian wrote:

确实应该先做英文到中文的翻译，就是现在多是中文到英文的，英文到中文比较少。英文最大的问题就是有时候看不懂，中文表达出来也觉得不地道，看来还需多下功夫啊。

看得出来，你是个虚心好学的年轻人。大家都会乐意帮助。有些人貌似向人请教，但实际上只是作秀，只想听赞美之声，并不虚心接受别人意见。结果适得其反。

找项目不能光依赖于ProZ的广告，而应直接与翻译社多联系。一时也许不奏效，但坚持下去总会成功。其实做中译英更关键的是中文水平。所以在提高英文水平的同时，仍应注意继续提高中文水平。
 
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Thx Mar 9, 2010

ysun wrote:

Ethan Tian wrote:

确实应该先做英文到中文的翻译，就是现在多是中文到英文的，英文到中文比较少。英文最大的问题就是有时候看不懂，中文表达出来也觉得不地道，看来还需多下功夫啊。

看得出来，你是个虚心好学的年轻人。大家都会乐意帮助。有些人貌似向人请教，但实际上只是作秀，只想听赞美之声，并不虚心接受别人意见。结果适得其反。

找项目不能光依赖于ProZ的广告，而应直接与翻译社多联系。一时也许不奏效，但坚持下去总会成功。其实做中译英更关键的是中文水平。所以在提高英文水平的同时，仍应注意继续提高中文水平。


Sun sir说的是到目录里面去搜公司，然后遍地撒网吗？那看来还得专门找个时候搜索合适的对象扔简历，不过还是得抓能力，不然有合适的粥也喝不下去，或者喝得很辛苦。:)
 
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也得有一定的针对性 Mar 9, 2010

Ethan Tian wrote:

Sun sir说的是到目录里面去搜公司，然后遍地撒网吗？那看来还得专门找个时候搜索合适的对象扔简历

不是盲目地遍地撒网，也得有一定的针对性。不同翻译社的业务往往也有不同的侧重点，要找对路的。所以你到目录里去搜索公司时，也得设定一定的标准。关键在于，一旦有客户对你感兴趣，就要全力以赴抓住它。逐渐建立起一批稳定的客户。
 
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