double batte

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French term or phrase:bâte
English translation:flange, collar
Entered by: Sandra Petch

13:36 Mar 30, 2010
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Tech/Engineering - Mining & Minerals / Gems / Type of setting
French term or phrase: double batte
Hi

This is part of a description of a diamond setting:

"serti chaton 3 griffes double batte"

Does anyone know what "double batte" is?

Thank you very much!
Sandra Petch
Local time: 18:14


Summary of answers provided
5 +1double claw
Guy Bray
4double collar
kashew
Summary of reference entries provided
Bâte?
Emma Paulay
Picture of 'alliance...sur chaton double batte'
Claire Nolan
Bâte (ou batte):
kashew

Discussion entries: 11





  

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double claw


Explanation:
It's bâte (claw). See diagram and bilingual text in: http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?WO=2006109153


Guy Bray
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Asker: Fabulous diagram, thanks. Claw (or prong) is griffe. Very helpful link all the same!


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Claire Nolan
3 hrs

neutral  kashew: The patent ref. is a special case where the arms replace prongs/claws.
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double collar


Explanation:
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kashew
France
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Reference comments


3 hrs
Reference: Bâte?

Reference information:
Found this glossary, which has an entry for "bâte". Could that be something to work on?


    Reference: http://rocbo.lautre.net/bijou_ppcp/fichierscours/LEXIQUE%20D...
Emma Paulay
France
Native speaker of: English
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Asker: Thanks Emma, that's a handy glossary. All this information is pulling together well!

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Reference: Picture of 'alliance...sur chaton double batte'

Reference information:
This photo might help.


    Reference: http://www.twenga.fr/dir-Bijoux,Bague-et-anneau,Alliance-020...
Claire Nolan
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 4
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Asker: Thank you! You can clearly see the two flanges (rims?) under the stones.

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Reference: Bâte (ou batte):

Reference information:
I found this definition.
Bâte (orfèvrerie ):
Elément d'entourage en métal servant à sertir les pierres qui ornent les pièces d'orfèvrerie, comme les bijoux. On dit d'une pierre qu'elle est "montée en bâte", c'est à dire qu'elle est est montée dans un boîtier métallique individuel, lui-même soudé sur une platine de même métal.On parle aussi de "pierres en bâtes".

Seems both terms are used - batte being maybe more modern.

kashew
France
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Asker: Thank you. This fits with all the other references. This is all a huge help!


Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
agree  Claire Nolan: According to Termium Plus, a 'bâte texturée' is a 'textured flange': A reinforcing rim set inside a bezel which acts as a bearing for the stone.
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