It followed by it in a sentence
Thread poster: patyjs
patyjs
patyjs  Identity Verified
Mexico
Local time: 05:02
Spanish to English
+ ...
Sep 4, 2019

Hi all,

Does this sentence seem right:

We won't deny it, it was overwhelming for us, too.

The repeated "it" feels clumsy to me but I don't know how to avoid it. Unless I do avoid it and say:

We won't deny; it was overwhelming for us, too.

Am I overthinking?

Thoughts are appreciated...thanks.


 
LCVB
LCVB
Belgium
Local time: 12:02
Dutch to English
+ ...
Rewrite or keep Sep 4, 2019

I don't see anything wrong with the repetition; if you don't like it, why don't you rewrite the sentence:

It could not be denied...
It was undeniable...


 
Francisco Vare
Francisco Vare
Poland
Local time: 12:02
Polish to Spanish
+ ...
Make it simpler Sep 4, 2019

What about...

"We won't deny it was overwhelming for us, too."


Hedwig Spitzer (X)
Christopher Schröder
Elizabeth Tamblin
Philip Lees
acidula
 
Phil Hand
Phil Hand  Identity Verified
China
Local time: 19:02
Chinese to English
Two sentences? Sep 4, 2019

I think technically, "We won't deny it, it was overwhelming for us, too" is a run-on, so you'd need some kind of sentence-splitting punctuation in there: a full stop, a colon, or a semicolon. (Though in informal texts, I think run-ons like this are fine.)

Other options include inverting the sentence:
It was overwhelming for us, too, we can't deny.

Or using a different phrase for the "can't deny" part:
We have to admit (that) it was rather ove
... See more
I think technically, "We won't deny it, it was overwhelming for us, too" is a run-on, so you'd need some kind of sentence-splitting punctuation in there: a full stop, a colon, or a semicolon. (Though in informal texts, I think run-ons like this are fine.)

Other options include inverting the sentence:
It was overwhelming for us, too, we can't deny.

Or using a different phrase for the "can't deny" part:
We have to admit (that) it was rather overwhelming for us, too.
We can tell you, it was overwhelming for us, too.


Or turn the adverbial tag into an actual adverb:
It was undeniably overwhelming for us, too.
Collapse


B D Finch
Michele Fauble
Morano El-Kholy
 
B D Finch
B D Finch  Identity Verified
France
Local time: 12:02
French to English
+ ...
Register and punctuation Sep 4, 2019

I think that, in an informal register or reported speech, your original sentence is better than the attempts to rewrite it, because it's more immediate and natural. However, as Phil says, it needs better punctuation and I think that should be a semicolon. Each of the two main clauses could each stand as a separate sentence, but it's better run on as a single sentence.

A. & S. Witte
Tina Vonhof (X)
 
Elizabeth Tamblin
Elizabeth Tamblin  Identity Verified
United Kingdom
Local time: 11:02
French to English
Another suggestion Sep 4, 2019

"There's no denying, it was..."

 
DZiW (X)
DZiW (X)
Ukraine
English to Russian
+ ...
If the it-sayer meant it Sep 4, 2019

Two independent clauses are correct both grammatically and syntactically.

Depending on the original idea, they are two antecedents joined asyndetically [without conjunctions].


 
Rachel Fell
Rachel Fell  Identity Verified
United Kingdom
Local time: 11:02
French to English
+ ...
Punctuation Sep 4, 2019

I would write it as:
"We won't deny it, it was overwhelming for us too."


Tina Vonhof (X)
 
Arabic & More
Arabic & More  Identity Verified
Jordan
Arabic to English
+ ...
Comma Splice Sep 5, 2019

Your current sentence contains what is called a comma splice:

https://writingexplained.org/grammar-dictionary/comma-splice

As suggested above, use a semicolon as follows:

We won't deny it; it was overwhelming for us too.


 
patyjs
patyjs  Identity Verified
Mexico
Local time: 05:02
Spanish to English
+ ...
TOPIC STARTER
Thanks everyone Sep 5, 2019

I appreciate all your valuable input. I went with the simplest rendition in the end, suggested by Francisco Vare: We won't deny it was overwhelming for us, too.

Have a great day, everyone!


 
neilmac
neilmac
Spain
Local time: 12:02
Spanish to English
+ ...
Punctuation Sep 5, 2019

The sentence is fine if you add a semicolon (;) after the first "it"...

"I don't like it; it sticks to my fingers…"

"We won't deny it; it something something yadda yadda...." (Sorry, my short-term memory is shot away these days)

[Edited at 2019-09-05 16:27 GMT]


 


To report site rules violations or get help, contact a site moderator:


You can also contact site staff by submitting a support request »

It followed by it in a sentence







Wordfast Pro
Translation Memory Software for Any Platform

Exclusive discount for ProZ.com users! Save over 13% when purchasing Wordfast Pro through ProZ.com. Wordfast is the world's #1 provider of platform-independent Translation Memory software. Consistently ranked the most user-friendly and highest value

Buy now! »
CafeTran Espresso
You've never met a CAT tool this clever!

Translate faster & easier, using a sophisticated CAT tool built by a translator / developer. Accept jobs from clients who use Trados, MemoQ, Wordfast & major CAT tools. Download and start using CafeTran Espresso -- for free

Buy now! »