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Business idea Feb 11

Mervyn Henderson wrote:

wearing T-shirts with a range of motifs: “I am a Kieler”, “Kiel! Kiel! Kiel!”, “Kielhaul them all!”


When all these Corona measures are done and over and when Kiel will be host again for hundreds of thousands of cruise ship passengers per year, among them a lot of coming from English speaking countries, I will then propose for a stall at the quays to sell the above mentioned T-shirts. Mervyn: 10 %?

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Tax Euros working Feb 11

Gerard Barry wrote:
There's a movement in Germany against the restrictions called "Querdenken". It translates as "lateral thinking". The government and media are shamelessly defaming them as being extremists, "right-wing radicals" and so on when they're nothing of the sort. A few weeks ago, I heard that the German government was considering placing them under observation by the "Verfassungsschutz" (Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution).


.... that's what I pay tax for. Too often the Verfassungsschutz fails and is blind on its right side eyes.


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10% Feb 11

Fine by me (if it had been me, I'd have said nothing and kept the lot!).

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Ghosts of Zaldibar Feb 11

Zaldibar is a town in south-east Bizkaia, not far from the border with Gipuzkoa, presumably named after the horse track that used to run through there - zaldi-horse and ibar-valley. It used to have a spa, frequented by moneyed Spaniards in the 19th century, although the fad didn't last, and it was turned into a psychiatric hospital.

Its fame as a spa town dated back to the legend of the Lady of the Marsh, a beautiful local girl who - I'm just doing this off the cuff now, but I tran
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Zaldibar is a town in south-east Bizkaia, not far from the border with Gipuzkoa, presumably named after the horse track that used to run through there - zaldi-horse and ibar-valley. It used to have a spa, frequented by moneyed Spaniards in the 19th century, although the fad didn't last, and it was turned into a psychiatric hospital.

Its fame as a spa town dated back to the legend of the Lady of the Marsh, a beautiful local girl who - I'm just doing this off the cuff now, but I translated it years ago for the Town Hall website - was stricken with some kind of horrible affliction back in the Middle Ages, and developed unsightly sores and welts all over her body, and particularly her lovely face. The townspeople thought this was a sign from God or something, and immediately threw her into the marsh outside Zaldibar to drown.

But she managed to climb out, and survived in a little wood by eating berries and fruit from the trees. After a day or two she noticed that her vile sores were disappearing, supposedly due to the curative properties of the marsh water. So she made her way back to town, and the people all gathered round in wonder, because now she was even more comely than before, and it wasn't long before a prince came along and fell in love with her, and off they rode together into the sunset. I'm not sure whether I actually remember the bit about the prince, or whether I just like to think of it that way, but that's how it got its reputation.

Not everyone here will have heard of the legend, but they've been hearing a lot about Zaldibar recently, because back in February 2020, just before lockdown, a huge elevated waste facility next to the town collapsed down all over the motorway and another road too, burying two workers under metres and metres of earth and refuse. Work was vastly restricted by the lockdown and its aftermath, but they eventually found the confirmed remains of one of them by August, whereas the other has yet to be located. Unlike the tale of the Lady of the Marsh, there's no happy ending for the families of either Alberto or Joaquín. Especially the family of Joaquín, still buried down there somewhere.

And, just over one year on, the families are unhappy not just about the Basque Government's feet-dragging rescue efforts afterwards, but also about its position with regard to liability. Somewhat typically, I suppose, in these situations, the authorities blamed the operator of the facility, which didn't have all the right permits, but the operator claimed everything was shipshape and Bristol fashion, and had been approved at the highest level. Somebody's got to be lying.

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Um... Feb 11

Gerard Barry wrote:
And how long would sou suggest those kind of authoritarian rules stay in place.

Until people stop dying needlessly in their thousands every single day?

It's quite unbelievable how authoritarian people have become in response to the coronavirus. All the more so since these are often the same people who, before corona, would call other people Nazis for daring to suggest even minor restrictions on immigration, for instance. Now it's all "Shut the borders!", "Make people stay at home!", "Throw people into prison for years if they break the rules!". I'm genuinely deeply shocked at what we've become.

What have “we” become? Kind? Caring? Selfless?

What is the alternative you are proposing? It sounds like mass euthanasia for the elderly and the infirm and everyone less able-bodied than yourself. (Did someone mention the Nazis?)

Do you really think anyone - anyone - actually wants these restrictions?

So, seriously, Gerard, let’s hear it: what do you think we should do instead?

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We all have to die sometime. Feb 11

Chris S wrote:

Gerard Barry wrote:
And how long would sou suggest those kind of authoritarian rules stay in place.

Until people stop dying needlessly in their thousands every single day?

It's quite unbelievable how authoritarian people have become in response to the coronavirus. All the more so since these are often the same people who, before corona, would call other people Nazis for daring to suggest even minor restrictions on immigration, for instance. Now it's all "Shut the borders!", "Make people stay at home!", "Throw people into prison for years if they break the rules!". I'm genuinely deeply shocked at what we've become.

What have “we” become? Kind? Caring? Selfless?

What is the alternative you are proposing? It sounds like mass euthanasia for the elderly and the infirm and everyone less able-bodied than yourself. (Did someone mention the Nazis?)

Do you really think anyone - anyone - actually wants these restrictions?

So, seriously, Gerard, let’s hear it: what do you think we should do instead?

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To listen to the way people talk about corona, you would think death was something new. To be honest, I get tired of arguing with people over this. I just hate groupthink and mass hysteria and corona has been a perfect example of this. Even more than that, I hate the state interfering excessively in my private life. I think we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.


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Stop press Feb 12

Just as you were about to raise that glass of txakoli to your lips and bite into a "gilda", too. The Basque Government seems to be deadly serious about the courts overturning its bar/restaurant closure, and has appealed. The word is that the long shot might just work, and they'll be closed again shortly. So drink up, order another, and then another, and then a few more, and then wend your way back home, cursing the government for just about everything, yes, even your inability to perform later i... See more
Just as you were about to raise that glass of txakoli to your lips and bite into a "gilda", too. The Basque Government seems to be deadly serious about the courts overturning its bar/restaurant closure, and has appealed. The word is that the long shot might just work, and they'll be closed again shortly. So drink up, order another, and then another, and then a few more, and then wend your way back home, cursing the government for just about everything, yes, even your inability to perform later in the accustomed fashion.

Like most people, we were thinking of going out to catch a bar or two this afternoon, but I really baulk at the thought of queueing, especially as the news of another possible closure will be bringing everyone to the bars.

The judge who ruled on all this has been in the news ever since. I'm told by the Basques, who know about these things, that he's an erudite chap, well respected in the courts of Bilbao. He also looks as if he spends a lot of time eating and drinking in bars, especially the former. Could this have swayed him in his decision? Who knows? At any rate, he had to modify a few comments he made on the radio the other day. The like of: "bah! these days any family doctor is an epidemiologist" and "it's hardly doctorate stuff, is it?" I do agree with the tiresome bombardment of experts day in day out, but not to the extent he does. Following a counterbarrage by likewise erudite epidemic experts (presumably) talking into their PCs with bookcases behind them, he had to climb down a little.

But it looks like we're going to be closed down by Monday again.





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Spoilsport Feb 12

Gerard Barry wrote:
To be honest, I get tired of arguing with people over this. I just hate groupthink and mass hysteria and corona has been a perfect example of this. Even more than that, I hate the state interfering excessively in my private life.

Me too.

I think we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.

Chicken. I am genuinely interested in knowing what your alternative plan is.


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Air traffic controllers Feb 12

I read a story once in Reader's Digest (yes, I know - it rained a lot in Ireland, and I worked my way through at least 15 years of them) about a young lady who was on her first day in the tower at a very large airport. A plane radioed in asking for permission to land on the northern runway cityside (well, I'm making the details up) ... She said "Go ahead, you have permission to land". Another plane radioed in asking to land on the northern runway riverside. She said "Fine". Another plane was tax... See more
I read a story once in Reader's Digest (yes, I know - it rained a lot in Ireland, and I worked my way through at least 15 years of them) about a young lady who was on her first day in the tower at a very large airport. A plane radioed in asking for permission to land on the northern runway cityside (well, I'm making the details up) ... She said "Go ahead, you have permission to land". Another plane radioed in asking to land on the northern runway riverside. She said "Fine". Another plane was taxiing out to the southern runway and asked for permission to take off on the northern runway cityside. She said "OK". Then another plane taxiing out to the northern runway riverside asked for permission, and she said "Clear for takeoff". Then another plane radioed in for permission to ....

In the end, the pilots realised there were three or four planes on a certain collision course, and they all radioed in for advice. The young lady thought for a minute, and said: "You'll all just have to be very, very careful."


I hear that a lot in these Corona times. People and authorities and experts telling us all to be very, very careful in those bars and restaurants and wherever. But we never are.

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Lockdown can help Feb 13

Mervyn Henderson wrote:

I read a story once in Reader's Digest (yes, I know - it rained a lot in Ireland, and I worked my way through at least 15 years of them) about a young lady who was on her first day in the tower at a very large airport. A plane radioed in asking for permission to land on the northern runway cityside (well, I'm making the details up) ... She said "Go ahead, you have permission to land". Another plane radioed in asking to land on the northern runway riverside. She said "Fine". Another plane was taxiing out to the southern runway and asked for permission to take off on the northern runway cityside. She said "OK". Then another plane taxiing out to the northern runway riverside asked for permission, and she said "Clear for takeoff". Then another plane radioed in for permission to ....

In the end, the pilots realised there were three or four planes on a certain collision course, and they all radioed in for advice. The young lady thought for a minute, and said: "You'll all just have to be very, very careful."


I hear that a lot in these Corona times. People and authorities and experts telling us all to be very, very careful in those bars and restaurants and wherever. But we never are.

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That's why some countries or cities choose to lockdown and prevent public to spread the virus. We cannot make sure we can be careful not to spread/catch the virus while eating in restaurants.
Melbourne started lockdown again last night for 5days due to the community spread. Hopefully the lockdown will be lifted after 5 days.


 

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Boozeness as usual Feb 13

Basque President Íñigo Urkullu has now announced he won't finally be appealing against the decision by the courts to overturn closure of bars and restaurants here, as I reported here a post or two ago.

He sent a letter to Spanish PM Sánchez asking Pedrito to draw up agreements with the autonomous communities concerning the necessary legal mechanisms to enable the measures adopted to slow down the pandemic to "acquire legal certainty". If that sounds like a bit of a mouthful, it'
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Basque President Íñigo Urkullu has now announced he won't finally be appealing against the decision by the courts to overturn closure of bars and restaurants here, as I reported here a post or two ago.

He sent a letter to Spanish PM Sánchez asking Pedrito to draw up agreements with the autonomous communities concerning the necessary legal mechanisms to enable the measures adopted to slow down the pandemic to "acquire legal certainty". If that sounds like a bit of a mouthful, it's because it's straight from the paper today. And a bit of a hasty translation, too, which nobody's paying me for, so don't start.

Talking of translations, I suppose what Íñigo means is he wants to see it in writing. I would have thought a court ruling was already in writing, but then, I'm not a politician, so it's highly probable I'm missing a bunch of nuancy stuff.

Meanwhile, let's get another round or two in here. With a few pintxos too. What you got there? Ham, cod, tortillas various? Bring it on, pal.

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The George Best Sausage Story Feb 13

I wrote this the other day about a famous compatriot of mine, George Best, so I thought I might as well post it here too:

The story goes that one night George Best was in some swish hotel in London. He’d just been to the casino and had won a load of cash, too. Not that George actually needed cash, because he was one of the world’s highest-paid footballers at the time with Manchester United, but it’s nice if you suddenly get more, isn’t it? Still, George had his problems too,
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I wrote this the other day about a famous compatriot of mine, George Best, so I thought I might as well post it here too:

The story goes that one night George Best was in some swish hotel in London. He’d just been to the casino and had won a load of cash, too. Not that George actually needed cash, because he was one of the world’s highest-paid footballers at the time with Manchester United, but it’s nice if you suddenly get more, isn’t it? Still, George had his problems too, busy getting a bad reputation because he was drinking heavily and starting to take nose powder, and his visits to nightclubs were becoming famous for his drunken brawls with all and sundry. In the last few years of his life, in fact, sadly, they invited him on chat shows simply because he was a guaranteed drunk who would talk nonsense and fall off his chair. It was drink that killed him in the end aged 59, because few people could pack it away like George could. At least they named Belfast City Airport after him …

Anyway, that night he had also brought either a former or current Miss World back to his hotel room, and they had been throwing the banknotes all around the room, and had just ordered more champagne. When the lad arrived at the luxury suite with the bottle, he saw George and a half-naked Miss World lying on the bed, with fivers and tenners and twenties and fifties strewn all over the place, he looked down at the hugely expensive Bollinger champagne he was opening for them, and cried:

“George, George! When did it all start to go wrong, son?”

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I know what you're thinking, by the way: sausage story? where are the sausages? Well, at the height of his fame, when he was still young, a great footballer and a household name, and hadn't yet started walking into Manchester nightclubs and punching people in the face, George did an advert for Ireland's Cookstown sausages, which I remember well. Cookstown is a little town in the middle of Northern Ireland, which is famous for ... well, for its sausages. Here's George doing some terrible acting (but then, he was paid to play football, not to act) in an advert for Cookstown sausages, "the Best family sausages" (geddit?). I'm pretty sure this was for Ulster TV, but both the narrator and George seem to tone down their Northern Ireland twang for a wider audience. Still, George more or less talks like I do. Dig that cheeky sausage wink at the end:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLUMw2WahY4


This story was brought to you by Cookstown Sausages. Cookstown Sausages. Cookstown. The Home of the Sizzle. Breakfast, lunch, dinner, whatever. Bite into that soft ...


Well, maybe not ... plus Cookstown Sausages aren't paying me for it.





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Sausage wink lol Feb 13

You never run out of story ideas.

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@Lingua5B Feb 13

Thanks! But it was George who gave it to us. And they WERE the best family sausages, too. There's a programme here called Basques Around The World, people from here living in other countries now - I'm sure it's a format used just about everywhere - and they always ask them what they miss about Euskadi, and invariably it's food - chorizo, ham, txuleta bone steak, cod - and I'm no different.

I miss the sausages, me. The Basques don't go in for them, and it shows, because their scrawn
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Thanks! But it was George who gave it to us. And they WERE the best family sausages, too. There's a programme here called Basques Around The World, people from here living in other countries now - I'm sure it's a format used just about everywhere - and they always ask them what they miss about Euskadi, and invariably it's food - chorizo, ham, txuleta bone steak, cod - and I'm no different.

I miss the sausages, me. The Basques don't go in for them, and it shows, because their scrawny red products with white spots just don't cut it. I used to buy them on my last day there before I flew back here, keep them in the fridge overnight, hide them in luggage because you weren't allowed to bring in pork products, and then put them back in the fridge here for breakfast the next day. Ahhhh! The Cookstown Sizzle. Not for nothing was Northern Ireland a leader for years in the UK in the clogged arteries and heart disease categories. And road deaths, too. But I don't think there was any connection between the two.
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Not big fan of meat. Feb 13

But I do have it in optimal amounts. Can remember nicely flavored sausages when I was in Switzerland (Wurst).

I'm sure you'll build a story about Valentine's too. Something titled "Corona romance"


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