попасть в проекцию

English translation: a two-dimensional projection/view which unavoidably does not contain

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Russian term or phrase:попасть в проекцию
English translation:a two-dimensional projection/view which unavoidably does not contain
Entered by: Frank Szmulowicz, Ph. D.

16:14 May 28, 2017
Russian to English translations [PRO]
Medical - Medical (general) / TEM
Russian term or phrase: попасть в проекцию
Уважаемые коллеги,

как бы вы написали? Контекст:

Кроме того, ультратонкий срез является по существу двумерной проекцией, в которую неизбежно не попадает большая часть мембраны телоцита с формирующимися экзосомами.

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svetlana cosquéric
France
Local time: 02:09
a two-dimensional projection/view which unavoidably does not contain
Explanation:
My interpretation: the ultra-thin slice is a two-dimensional projection which unavoidably does not contain most of the telocyte...

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Note added at 17 hrs (2017-05-29 10:09:02 GMT)
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Using Marlin31's kind suggestion: inherently misses (i.e., is an unavoidable limitation)
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Frank Szmulowicz, Ph. D.
United States
Local time: 20:09
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Thank you, Frank!
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Summary of answers provided
3 +2a two-dimensional projection/view which unavoidably does not contain
Frank Szmulowicz, Ph. D.
4is projected outside the field of view, exceeds the field of view
rns
3cannot be projected to
rns


  

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8 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
неизбежно не попадает в проекцию
cannot be projected to


Explanation:
Most of ... cannot be projected to a 2D ultra-thin section.

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Note added at 31 mins (2017-05-28 16:46:42 GMT)
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Да, НМВ тут чистая геометрия — трехмерный объект не может быть полностью спроецирован на плоскость.

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Note added at 10 hrs (2017-05-29 02:44:14 GMT)
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... и, геометрически, «не попадает в проекцию», поскольку теряется при проецировании, т.к. не может быть спроецирован. Или я упускаю что-то важное?

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Note added at 11 hrs (2017-05-29 03:26:23 GMT)
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Похоже да. Срез ведь тоже имеет толщину.


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Note added at 11 hrs (2017-05-29 03:36:59 GMT)
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Надо подумать. :)

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Note added at 11 hrs (2017-05-29 03:47:25 GMT)
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Очевидно, речь идет о проекции среза, получаемой путем микроскопии.

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Note added at 11 hrs (2017-05-29 03:54:42 GMT)
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По-моему, автор пытается сказать, что

Also the field of view is relatively small, raising the possibility that the region analyzed may not be characteristic of the whole sample.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transmission_electron_microsco...

rns
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Notes to answerer
Asker: а это разве тот же смысл?

Asker: так в том-то и дело, что геометрия...

Asker: Thank you!

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11 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
is projected outside the field of view, exceeds the field of view


Explanation:
With ultrathin sectioning, a larger part of the telocyte membrane, where exosomes are produced, is projected outside the field of view.

https://goo.gl/LbTC8g + примечания к моему предыдущему ответу.

Fig 28. ...large patient who exceeds the field of view of the CT scanner. In areas where the patient's body is projected outside the CT field of view...
https://goo.gl/Co65bT



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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
a two-dimensional projection/view which unavoidably does not contain


Explanation:
My interpretation: the ultra-thin slice is a two-dimensional projection which unavoidably does not contain most of the telocyte...

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Note added at 17 hrs (2017-05-29 10:09:02 GMT)
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Using Marlin31's kind suggestion: inherently misses (i.e., is an unavoidable limitation)

Frank Szmulowicz, Ph. D.
United States
Local time: 20:09
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in PolishPolish
PRO pts in category: 312
Grading comment
Thank you, Frank!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Marlin31: I'd say "that inherently misses..." because "неизбежно не попадает" means here "miss/lose/lack".
5 hrs
  -> Thank you, Marlin31. Your choice of words is spot-perfect.

agree  Anton Konashenok: with Marlin31
16 hrs
  -> Thank you, Anton.Yes, Marlin31 hit the nail on the head.
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